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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby osity » 27.04.17, 22:13

I have checked for shorts about a dozen times already. Everything looks good.
This is a 64GB sandisk Monolith. Do they require anything special?

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Roman:
When I was checking continuity on the Board, VCC and V2 seem to be the same connection as there is continuity between the two.
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Roman_TS » 28.04.17, 09:09

osity wrote:Source of the post
Every time I open a task it still asks "repeate the download?"
I think there is something wrong with the software.
I right click on "Unknown chip" then "Read chip ID" and I still get the same "uncorrect ID" result.


It's automatic resources checking. If something new will appear in XOR or ECC, software will download resources at first. If all resources are up-to-date, you will see a message "Repeat download?".

If you don't want to update resources automatically, you can deselect checkbox "Check Downloads" in this window:

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Actually, resources update is not influence on chip ID reading process. Need to check everything double time, and to make sure that all pins are soldered on correct places, there is no short circuit between wires.

Also, wrong ID might be a reason of controller influence. You can try to reduce power supply to 2.6-2.8V for read the ID. In this case, controller will be switched-off, but NAND core will provide you access for reading.
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Amarbir[CDR-Labs] » 28.04.17, 09:24

Roman_TS wrote:Source of the post
osity wrote:Source of the post
Every time I open a task it still asks "repeate the download?"
I think there is something wrong with the software.
I right click on "Unknown chip" then "Read chip ID" and I still get the same "uncorrect ID" result.



It's automatical resources checking. If something new will appear, software will download resources at first. If you don't want to update resources automatically, you can deselect checkbox "Check Downloads" in this window:

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Well,
I will give my input here roman ,The problem is that when you translate to English It Becomes 'Rusenglish" . This String Should Be "Recheck For New Resources [ From Internet ] Instead Of "Check Download " . Secondly Why Does Internet Local IP Have Anything in It When its Not Required by default ? . I too have been hooking up all my monoliths to 3.3V pad instead of V2 ,Whats the difference in this roman V2 is adjustable and 3.3 is fixed is that so
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Roman_TS » 28.04.17, 09:30

This String Should Be "Recheck For New Resources [ From Internet ] Instead Of "Check Download "


We will change it in next update. Thank you for feedback.

Secondly Why Does Internet Local IP Have Anything in It When its Not Required by default ?


It's just local IP, but default - it's not influence on anything. For example, on my machine, I can check updates without problem. But if customers have some wired firewalls or extended LAN security, it might be a reason of problem. Anyway, I will give our developers know about that.

I too have been hooking up all my monoliths to 3.3V pad instead of V2 ,Whats the difference in this roman V2 is adjustable and 3.3 is fixed is that so


Correct. About your case - in your case, wrong ID might be a reason of controller influence. Try to send default 3.3V from external power supply source, and see what will happened. If in a few words, when you send adjustable VCC on monolith, controller start to work and block all signals from NAND. It just create additional noise which not allow to read ID and data correctly. But if we will switch CPU off with default 3.3V or with reducing the power supply, it might seriously help.
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Amarbir[CDR-Labs] » 28.04.17, 09:34

Roman,
I am a Ant :mrgreen: i will never giveup on that SD Card case 1 will definately nail it now or later .Just doing another CF card recovery now
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby osity » 28.04.17, 19:33

Roman_TS wrote:Source of the post You can try to reduce power supply to 2.6-2.8V for read the ID



Where do I do this?

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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Amarbir[CDR-Labs] » 28.04.17, 22:37

osity wrote:Source of the post
Roman_TS wrote:Source of the post You can try to reduce power supply to 2.6-2.8V for read the ID



Where do I do this?


Osity ,
I am also struggling with one SD monolith man same question i have as you to team
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Roman_TS » 01.05.17, 09:11

Where do I do this?


Open any task in PC-3000 Flash, than follow: Options -> PC-3000 Flash Parameters -> Power Adapter control. Then, you would be able to set different "starting" voltage on your monolith during chip ID and NAND reading.
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Amarbir[CDR-Labs] » 01.05.17, 12:36

Roman_TS wrote:Source of the post
Where do I do this?


Open any task in PC-3000 Flash, than follow: Options -> PC-3000 Flash Parameters -> Power Adapter control. Then, you would be able to set different "starting" voltage on your monolith during chip ID and NAND reading.



Roman,
will try and revert back
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby osity » 01.05.17, 18:35

Are we adjusting only the: VCC channel- start value- setting?

If so, I have tried all the ranges from 2.6V up to 2.8V.
I still get the uncorrect ID in Jedec.
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Roman_TS » 02.05.17, 09:05

ID is reading, but looks like such ID is not in our database, because this is a new NAND, which we never see before. We have 0x453EAA92 in our DB, but 0x453EAAA2 - newer. It should appear in Flash during next 2-3 month.
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby osity » 05.05.17, 02:55

That's good news, I guess I'll wait. thanks.


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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby osity » 27.06.17, 22:44

PC-3000 flash still cannot detect ID on this Micro SD. Do you know when the PC-3000 will be able to handle it?

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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby Roman_TS » 29.06.17, 08:59

osity wrote:Source of the post PC-3000 flash still cannot detect ID on this Micro SD. Do you know when the PC-3000 will be able to handle it?

In next PC-3000 Flash update which is going to appear in updateboxes till Autumn 2017.
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Re: VCC or 3.3V *Photo*

Postby osity » 29.06.17, 13:17

Will this be available to everyone or just people on a support plan?


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