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Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 02.05.09, 22:47
by ZeBong
Hi Acelabs Engineers,
Are you thinking in release in Pck3 UDMA the FW recovery in automatic mode ?
Thanks
ZeBong
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 05.05.09, 15:15
by aviko
ZeBong wrote:Hi Acelabs Engineers,
Are you thinking in release in Pck3 UDMA the FW recovery in automatic mode ?
Thanks
ZeBong
how about make special utility with just 1 button "Fix all my problems"
Come on. There is so much different conditions and its impossible to make automatic universal solution for all kind problems with some family.
This reminds me as someone said about 7200.11 1-button-solution and monkeys with grenades.
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 05.05.09, 16:06
by GURU
LOL funny :O)
Automatic mode is like wiring a bomb with you eyes closed... KABOOOOOM !
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 05.05.09, 16:16
by ZeBong
i just post this, because i see in hddguru, another prodcut that will do this

Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 06.05.09, 11:51
by dmarques
This is a problem of the new data recovery experts.
I'm happy I'm not only from the time of plug and play and click and go, as that is time saving of course, but then you keep attached to it, and when the click and go doesn't work, you don't have a clue of what's going on behind it.
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 06.05.09, 12:25
by AJ2008
I think it is always good to have an understanding of exactly what it is you are doing. Im all for making a quick buck, and automated recoveries save time, but I dont want to be dependant on one click solutions and automated procedures.
Also, if you are unable to correctly diagnose and repair a fault, quick fixes and one click answers will only make thigs worse.
I like the convenience, but not the dependancy. Much rather do something manually and know I am in complete control of what I am doing.
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 06.05.09, 13:10
by ZeBong
AJ2008 wrote:I like the convenience, but not the dependancy. Much rather do something manually and know I am in complete control of what I am doing.
100% agree with you
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 07:11
by steven
automatic .. OOO No.... and Never...
automatic will kill our brain and we are not learning...
such Auto recovery software that we can find a lot in internet.
We just install it and select the drive we want to scan. after scan it display the scan result for us... But The result was not alwasy correct. and we can not check the data integrity. sometime ALL the result just a bullshit.... this is called automatic recovery software.... NEVER.....
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 10:49
by dmarques
That's right. Your brain get's dead.
I can see that from my brother, he's 8 years younger than me, so he's from the time of click and go.
He knows a lot of things that I teached him, but he still has problems when something goes wrong, because he doesn't have the "behind" knowledge that you must had some years ago, to understand why something works the way it does.
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 12:33
by Mike_Montgomery
Very true .. I remember when adding the most simple of hardware involved manual set up of the IRQ and DMA either trhough modifying the driver config or by setting jumpers on the card. These days everything is automatic and cant be adjusted..
I prefer the PC3000 exactly as it is, there are some semi-automatic features in Seagate utility that are very useful and save quite a bit of work - these are well thought out and logical. The most important thing is that you know and understand what is going on.
Mike
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 12:56
by steven
I still remember 10 year ago. when the first time i try to built up a computer. I need to set the value of Procesor clock. we need to set the correct jumper. if not will kill our prosesor. everytime we change prosesor we need to change the clock size. and also for the memory clock. we need to calculate the correct value. But NOW everything is very simple. Just attach ALL in motherboard and turn on. the computer become yours. it will help a lot for new user and do not to understand to much how to configure. BIOS will do it for us.....
my first computer was intel x386 withmemory only 32 MB. but from this computer I learn a lot of thing. included some of HEXA. how FAT work. how to get back deleted file by change the hexa value from the index. and How to clean Virus froma infected file using hexa editor...and still a lot of thing. But at that time. ALL must be done manually. nothing is automatic. I'm lucky because I still learn some of low level programming that was not teached now. even a programming language become fully automatic called visual...
I;m very sorry that the trend have become automatic. everything become fully automatic. just make us become a operator. lot of user do not understand what was done behind the click. maybe it is trend of plug and play. click and play....

Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 13:30
by ZeBong
I think the pc3000 Portable that i am waiting to get it

, Ace will try to make some steps in automatic mode, not all but some.
Everybody want to be in control off the disk and know what is doing, but i see that the Seagate F3 BSY Problem is made in automatic mode, if we compare the MANUAL mode to the AUTOMATIC mode is a little bit faster

The products will always help users to make thing in less time ....
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 13:30
by dobrevjetser
You were lucky; 386 with 32 MB ram.
My first computer was a DAI with a 8080 processor at 2 MHz and with 48 KB of ram, and that was allready considered much memory in those days (1979)
Dobre
Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 15:27
by dmarques
1979 was my birthday year.
But when I was 7 or 8, someone gave my first "computer". Timex 2048.

Re: Firmware recovery (manual vs automatic)
Posted: 07.05.09, 17:22
by ZeBong
LOL,
My first one was the Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
