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help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby oldman » 04.08.16, 19:52

Hello,

I have a NAND chip from a Samsung Galaxy S6,
The markings are
SEC513
E0B1
KLUBG4G1BD
(images attached)

The bottom connections are very unusual (images attached).
Have anyone done recovery on this type of chip before?
Does anyone know what kind of chip this is called? Seems like this is the new version of eMMC chips.

Thanks.
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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby Cableguy » 15.08.16, 16:57

Hello,

This is indeed a new type of memory chip. Instead of 8-bit parallel half-duplex interface (eMMC) it has a 2-bit serial full-duplex interface (M-PHY). It is called UFS 2.0 and you can find everything about it here: http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/pr ... orage/ufs/

Furthermore, because full disk encryption is mandatory on Android 6.0 and above it is not likely you get any readable info by commencing a chip-off and reading the chip like you did with the eMMC chips. The highest change of getting any user data is by the use of an ODIN-like approach by rooting it. Samsung will use this memory on its flagships from Galaxy S6, S7 and above. Other manufacturers are also ready to produce and implement (Toshiba, SK Hynix).

Galaxy S6 uses UFS 2.0 in a FBGA95 layout, Galaxy S7 uses UFS 2.0 in a FBGA153 layout. This FBGA153 looks exactly like the eMMC layout but contacts have different functions!


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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby oldman » 17.08.16, 18:36

Ok. Thanks for the information!


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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby dolab » 30.08.16, 14:05

but if you need an adapter or programmer which can handle this kind of chips check:
http://www.dediprog.com/pd/ufs-emmc-solution/NuProg-E :thumbup:


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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby Marek » 30.08.16, 14:34

I think that chip is encrypted

I Check in datasheet about memory chip from all Galaxy S6 and all chip have encrypting module soldered to the chip...


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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby dolab » 30.08.16, 15:03

i think so but if you really wanted to know you have to examin the chip...so we are going to buy this programmer

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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby Amarbir[CDR-Labs] » 01.09.16, 13:09

dolab wrote:Source of the post but if you need an adapter or programmer which can handle this kind of chips check:
http://www.dediprog.com/pd/ufs-emmc-solution/NuProg-E :thumbup:


Hello Dolab ,
Very Interesting ,But i am Sure NAND Recovery Vendors Are Working On these New Devices Also .But Many EMMC/Jtag Products Are Already In The Market Might Be some Of them Have Started To Work On This UFS Chip Also
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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby elderb » 09.01.17, 03:52

We are finding that the data is not encrypted on the S6 chips but they are on the S7 chips. The S6 uses a BGA95 UFS style chip and the S7 uses a BGA153 UFS style chip. Both can be read sing the Dediprog programmer and adapters.

The cell phone user can encrypt the data on the S6 if they want. Phone with Android 6.x and higher comes with on chip encryption by default, eg. the S7.

I hope this helps.


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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby studiogsm » 09.03.17, 18:13

If you want to read memory chip/data recovery, please contact me on priv.

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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby DataMedics » 09.03.17, 18:48

So how much does that UFS chip reader cost?

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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby Multi-COM » 21.04.17, 21:21

@DataMedics: Its around 1000$ for reader + additional 250-300$ per adapter for 095 and 153. While UFS153 looks very similar to eMMC pinout it's completely different.

P.S
Before unsoldering IC just make sure that IC are supported - we already got few situations where IC cannot be supported since IC config was not available - especially with Toshiba 095 IC's from G928 (S6) and 920C (Note 5).... they used THGLF2G8J4LBATD
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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby Amarbir[CDR-Labs] » 25.04.17, 05:22

Multi-COM wrote:Source of the post @DataMedics: Its around 1000$ for reader + additional 250-300$ per adapter for 095 and 153. While UFS153 looks very similar to eMMC pinout it's completely different.

P.S
Before unsoldering IC just make sure that IC are supported - we already got few situations where IC cannot be supported since IC config was not available - especially with Toshiba 095 IC's from G928 (S6) and 920C (Note 5).... they used THGLF2G8J4LBATD


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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby jerema » 10.07.17, 08:46

Is there any other possibility to read the memory from Samsung S6 then the dediprog reader ?

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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby Roman_TS » 10.07.17, 09:12

As I remember, Galaxy S6 contain a common eMMC chip inside it. So, theoretically, with the help of eMMC to SD or to USB adapter, it become possible to read the content from eMMC without complex soldering.
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Re: help finding Adapter/reading out NAND memory from Samsung S6 KLUBG4G1BD-E0B1

Postby jerema » 10.07.17, 10:51

Hello Roman,
what Do you mean with complex soldering ?
I think I have to desolder the Chip and read it with an reader.
My question was : exist an other possibility to read this chip, without the dediprog reader for over 1000 US$ ?
I mean anything like emmc to SD or usb .


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